kill of the innocent in the bible

EX 23:7 God prohibits the killing of the innocent.

NU 31:17-18, DT 7:2, JS 6:21-27, 7:19-26, 8:22-25, 10:20, 40, 11:8-15, 20, JG 11:30-39, 21:10-12, 1SA 15:3 God orders or approves the complete extermination of groups of people which include innocent women and/or children.

continued chat with theist

6:48pmRobert

i feel everything happens for a reason

6:50pmAutumn

ok, the divine plan

6:51pmRobert

?

6:52pmAutumn

divine plan is the idea that god wrote what happed happens and will happen

6:53pmRobert

if nothing bad ever happened, people wouldn't be who they are today

6:56pmAutumn

yes... but the idea that god (who is supposedly perfect and loving) have bad crap happen

6:57pmRobert

people have their different ideas

6:58pmAutumn

and yours is

6:59pmAutumn

?

6:59pmRobert

way to confusing to go off on

not even sure how to explain, and i don't feel like it

7:00pmAutumn

another excuse that says you don't know

7:01pmRobert

not sure of the words to use

7:01pmAutumn

what ever comes to your mind

7:03pmAutumn

unless you express your ideas i don't have reason to change my mind

7:04pmRobert

i don't want you to change your mind

7:04pmAutumn

why?

7:05pmRobert

cause i honestly could care less what others think

7:05pmAutumn

Robert
stop being a stupid bitch, alright?
6:03pmRobert
Jesus loves you

7:06pmRobert

that was just to piss you off for being a stupid bitch

7:07pmAutumn

that does not work

7:07pmRobert

Jesus loves you doesn't piss you off?

7:07pmAutumn

i get bullied every damn day, i know all the tricks

no

7:08pmRobert

and if you weren't bullied the world wouldn't be the same

7:10pmAutumn

i don't care about the fact that i get bullied... I'm a nerd and a dork... that happens normally, the problem is what i get bullied about.

7:11pmAutumn

i use logic to out whit them. there not going to change their mind, but people around them see how stupid they are and think for themselves

7:13pmAutumn

i got to go

bye

7:13pmRobert

okay

7:13pmAutumn

i am willing to continue conversation if you like

bye

Today

9:58amRobert is offline.

11:08amRobert

sorry i was kind of a jerk yesterday

11:09amAutumn

that's fine, i get that shit every day, I'm used to it

Is The Bible More Violent Than The Quran?

chat with theist

Robert

stop being a stupid bitch, alright?

6:03pmRobert

jesus loves you

6:04pmAutumn

jesus would not like you calling me or anyone else a bitch

6:06pmRobert

you wouldn't care, you don't believe

stupid athiest

6:07pmAutumn

the worlds best people are atheist

6:08pmRobert

you mean the weirdest

6:08pmAutumn

like Ben Franklin?

the worlds best people are atheist

mark twain

jhon Lennon

*john

6:09pmRobert

so how do you believe we got here then?

6:10pmAutumn

random chance

6:11pmRobert

yeah, this just randomly happened perfectly?

i think not

6:11pmAutumn

nothings perfect

do you have ANY freaking idea of how big the universe is?

6:12pmRobert

so? its big, who cares?

6:13pmAutumn

the chances might be small but there is STILL some chance that life might develop

6:14pmRobert

but still, something that big just randomly happened? just poof it was there?

6:15pmAutumn

http://www.umich.edu/~gs265/bigbang.htm

http://ssscott.tripod.com/BigBang.html

6:16pmRobert

i don't feel like looking up your stupid links

6:16pmAutumn

http://jersey.uoregon.edu/~mstrick/astronomy/Astro_Lectures/BigBang.html

i cant past it all

6:18pmAutumn

how bout all the crap that happens in the world? does god make all the bad crap happen

6:18pmRobert

i believe so

6:20pmAutumn

so your loving caring god makes girls get raped, wars rage where millions are murdered, and children go hungry and die from starvation

6:20pmRobert

yep

6:21pmAutumn

your gods a dick

6:21pmRobert

i think not

6:21pmAutumn

how is he not?

6:21pmRobert

way too hard to explain

6:22pmAutumn

you have to or else i have no valid reason to believe other wise

6:23pmRobert

i really don't give a fuck what you think

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Joshua: Injustice

"Have not I commanded thee? Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the LORD thy God is with thee whithersoever thou goest."
Donald Rumsfeld sent this verse to inspire the troops during the 2003 invasion of Iraq. 1:9

"Every place that the sole of your foot shall tread upon, that have I given unto you ... There shall not any man be able to stand before thee." 1:3-5)

God "magnifies" Joshua and promises to "without fail" drive out all the inhabitants of the lands through which they passed. 3:7

"And the city shall be accursed ... and all that therein, to the Lord: only Rahab the harlot shall live." God explains that Rahab is to be spared since she hid Joshua's spies and lied to those who were searching for them (2:4-5). But why was everyone else killed? Some of them were probably liars too. 6:17

Keep yourselves from "the accursed thing". Whatever that is. But be sure to save all the silver and gold for God! 6:18-19

"And they utterly destroyed all that was in the city, both man and woman, young and old, and ox, and sheep, and ass, with the edge of the sword." 6:21

After killing everyone, "they burnt the city with fire, and all that was therein." Only the valuables (silver, gold, brass, and iron) did they keep to "put into the treasury of the house of the Lord." 6:24

Joshua says that those who try to rebuild Jericho will be accursed by God, and will have to sacrifice both their oldest and their youngest sons in its construction. Well, Jericho still exists today, and is often considered to be the world's oldest, continuously occupied city. 6:26

God tells Joshua to kill whoever tood "the accursed thing." 7:10-12

If you happen to see "the accursed thing," don't touch it. If you do, you, your family, and all of your animals must be burned. 7:15

"And Joshua ... took Achan ... and his sons, and his daughters, and his oxen, and his sheep... And all of Israel stoned them with stones, and burned them with fire, after they had stoned them with stones." This is because Achan "took of the accursed thing" -- whatever that means. But why would God require that Achan's sons and daughters (and even his animals) be stoned to death along with him? The Bible doesn't say. But it does tell us that "the Lord turned from the fierceness of his anger" when Achan, his children, and his animals were stoned to death and their dead bodies burned. 7:24-26

"When ye have taken the city [Ai] ... ye shall set the city on fire: according to the commandment of the LORD. 8:8

"They smote them, so that they let none of them remain or escape." 8:22

"When Israel had made an end of slaying all the inhabitants of Ai in the field ... all the Israelites returned unto Ai, and smote it with the edge of the sword." 8:24

"All that fell that day, both of men and women, were twelve thousand." 8:25

God curses the Gibeonites to be slaves of the Jews forever. 9:21-27

"And the LORD said unto Joshua, Fear them not: for I have delivered them into thine hand."
God delivers the Amorites into Joshua's hand (so he can kill them all). 10:8

"And the LORD discomfited them before Israel, and slew them with a great slaughter at Gibeon, and chased them along the way."
God slaughters the Amorites and even chases them along the way. 10:10

"The LORD cast down great stones from heaven upon them ... and they died."
As the Amorites try to escape, God sends down huge hailstones and kills even more of them. 10:11

In a divine type of daylight savings time, God makes the sun stand still so that Joshua can get all his killing done before dark. 10:12-13

"The Lord fought for Israel." 10:14

God tells Joshua to "pursue after your enemies and smite the hindmost of them." (Kick their butts.) Don't let any of them escape "for the Lord your God hath delivered them into your hand." 10:19

Joshua tells his captains to "put your feet upon the necks of these kings." He says, "thus shall the Lord do to all of your enemies." Then Joshua kills the kings and hangs them on trees. 10:24-26

"Put your feet upon the necks of these kings." 10:24

"Thus shall the LORD do to all your enemies." 10:25

"Joshua smote them, and slew them, and hanged them on five trees." 10:25

Joshua, at God's command, kills everyone and everything that he can find (including babies and little children)-- or, as the Bible puts it, he "utterly destroyed all that breathed, as the Lord commanded." 10:28-32

Joshua, at God's command, kills everyone and everything that he can find (including babies and little children)-- or, as the Bible puts it, he "utterly destroyed all that breathed, as the Lord commanded." 10:28-32

"Joshua ... smote it with the edge of the sword ... and all the souls that were therein; he let none remain." 10:28

"Then Joshua ... fought against Libnah: And the LORD delivered it also ... and he smote it with the edge of the sword, and all the souls that were therein; he let none remain in it." 10:29-30

"The LORD delivered Lachish into the hand of Israel, which ... smote it with the edge of the sword, and all the souls that were therein." 10:32

"Joshua passed unto Eglon ... and smote it with the edge of the sword, and all the souls that were therein he utterly destroyed." 10:34-35

"Joshua went ... unto Hebron ... and smote it with the edge of the sword ... and all the cities ... and all the souls that were therein; he left none remaining." 10:36-37

"Joshua returned ... to Debir ... And he took it ... and all the cities ... and they smote them with the edge of the sword, and utterly destroyed all the souls that were therein; he left none remaining."10:38-39

"So Joshua ... left none remaining, but utterly destroyed all that breathed, as the LORD God of Israel commanded." 10:40

"All these kings and their land did Joshua take at one time, because the LORD God of Israel fought for Israel." 10:42

God delivers the Hazorites into Joshua's hand, and he knows just what to do with them: he smites them all with (you guessed it) the edge of the sword until "there was not any left to breathe." 11:6-17

"And the LORD delivered them into the hand of Israel, who smote them ... and they smote them, until they left them none remaining." 11:8

"Joshua ... smote the king thereof with the sword." 11:10

"And they smote all the souls that were therein with the edge of the sword, utterly destroying them: there was not any left to breathe." 11:11

"And all the cities of those kings, and all the kings of them, did Joshua take, and smote them with the edge of the sword, and he utterly destroyed them, as Moses the servant of the LORD commanded." 11:12

"Every man they smote with the edge of the sword, until they had destroyed them, neither left they any to breathe." 11:14

"As the LORD commanded Moses his servant, so did Moses command Joshua, and so did Joshua; he left nothing undone of all that the LORD commanded Moses." 11:15

"So Joshua took ... all their kings ... and smote them, and slew them." 11:16-17

"For it was of the Lord to harden their hearts, that they should come against Israel in battle, that he might destroy them utterly." Notice that God hardens their hearts so that he can have an excuse to kill them. 11:20

"Joshua destroyed them utterly with their cities." 11:21

Caleb offers to give his daughter to whoever conquers the city of Debir. Caleb's nephew wins the contest and is given his cousin for a prize. 15:16-17

"Did not Achan son of Zerah commit a trespass in the accursed thing, and wrath fell on all the congregation of Israel?" To find out see Joshua 7:1-26. 22:20

One man of you shall chase a thousand: for the LORD your God, he it is that fighteth for you." 23:10

"I plagued Egypt." 24:5

God brags about drowning the Egyptians. 24:7

"I gave them [the Amorites] into your hand, that ye might possess their land; and I destroyed them from before you." 24:8

"I have given you a land for which ye did not labour, and cities which ye built not."
God gave the Israelites other peoples' stuff (after killing them all). 24:13

"I delivered them into your hand." 24:11

God sent hornets to fight for the Israelites. 24:12

God is jealous and will never forgive you for your sins. "He will turn and do you hurt, and consume you." 24:19-20

Joshua: Cruelty and Violence

Joshua: Cruelty and Violence

1. "Have not I commanded thee? Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the LORD thy God is with thee whithersoever thou goest."
   Donald Rumsfeld sent this verse to inspire the troops during the 2003 invasion of Iraq. 1:9
2. God "magnifies" Joshua and promises to "without fail" drive out all the inhabitants of the lands through which they passed. 3:7
3. "And the city shall be accursed ... and all that therein, to the Lord: only Rahab the harlot shall live." God explains that Rahab is to be spared since she hid Joshua's spies and lied to those who were searching for them (2:4-5). But why was everyone else killed? Some of them were probably liars too. 6:17
4. "And they utterly destroyed all that was in the city, both man and woman, young and old, and ox, and sheep, and ass, with the edge of the sword." 6:21
5. After killing everyone, "they burnt the city with fire, and all that was therein." Only the valuables (silver, gold, brass, and iron) did they keep to "put into the treasury of the house of the Lord." 6:24
6. Joshua says that those who try to rebuild Jericho will be accursed by God, and will have to sacrifice both their oldest and their youngest sons in its construction. Well, Jericho still exists today, and is often considered to be the world's oldest, continuously occupied city. 6:26
7. God tells Joshua to kill whoever took "the accursed thing." 7:10-12
8. If you happen to see "the accursed thing," don't touch it. If you do, you, your family, and all of your animals must be burned. 7:15
9. "And Joshua ... took Achan ... and his sons, and his daughters, and his oxen, and his sheep... And all of Israel stoned them with stones, and burned them with fire, after they had stoned them with stones." This is because Achan "took of the accursed thing" -- whatever that means. But why would God require that Achan's sons and daughters (and even his animals) be stoned to death along with him? The Bible doesn't say. But it does tell us that "the Lord turned from the fierceness of his anger" when Achan, his children, and his animals were stoned to death and their dead bodies burned. 7:24-26
10. "When ye have taken the city [Ai] ... ye shall set the city on fire: according to the commandment of the LORD. 8:8
11. "They smote them, so that they let none of them remain or escape." 8:22
12. "When Israel had made an end of slaying all the inhabitants of Ai in the field ... all the Israelites returned unto Ai, and smote it with the edge of the sword." 8:24
13. "All that fell that day, both of men and women, were twelve thousand." 8:25
14. Joshua hangs the king of Ai on a tree until evening. 8:29
15. After Joshua kills all the inhabitants of Ai, burns their city, and hangs their king on a tree, he kills some animals and burns them as a "peace offering" to his warlike God. 8:31
16. God curses the Gibeonites to be slaves of the Jews forever. 9:21-27
17. "And the LORD said unto Joshua, Fear them not: for I have delivered them into thine hand."
    God delivers the Amorites into Joshua's hand (so he can kill them all). 10:8
18. "And the LORD discomfited them before Israel, and slew them with a great slaughter at Gibeon, and chased them along the way."
    God slaughters the Amorites and even chases them along the way. 10:10
19. "The LORD cast down great stones from heaven upon them ... and they died."
    As the Amorites try to escape, God sends down huge hailstones and kills even more of them. 10:11
20. In a divine type of daylight savings time, God makes the sun stand still so that Joshua can get all his killing done before dark. 10:12-13
21. God tells Joshua to "pursue after your enemies and smite the hindmost of them." (Kick their butts.) Don't let any of them escape "for the Lord your God hath delivered them into your hand." 10:19
22. Joshua tells his captains to "put your feet upon the necks of these kings." He says, "thus shall the Lord do to all of your enemies." Then Joshua kills the kings and hangs them on trees. 10:24-26
23. "Put your feet upon the necks of these kings." 10:24
24. "Thus shall the LORD do to all your enemies." 10:25
25. "Joshua smote them, and slew them, and hanged them on five trees." 10:25
26. Joshua, at God's command, kills everyone and everything that he can find (including babies and little children)-- or, as the Bible puts it, he "utterly destroyed all that breathed, as the Lord commanded." 10:28-32
27. "Joshua ... smote it with the edge of the sword ... and all the souls that were therein; he let none remain." 10:28
28. "Then Joshua ... fought against Libnah: And the LORD delivered it also ... and he smote it with the edge of the sword, and all the souls that were therein; he let none remain in it." 10:29-30
29. "The LORD delivered Lachish into the hand of Israel, which ... smote it with the edge of the sword, and all the souls that were therein." 10:32
30. Then Horam king of Gezer came up to help Lachish; and Joshua smote him and his people, until he had left him none remaining." 10:33
31. "Joshua passed unto Eglon ... and smote it with the edge of the sword, and all the souls that were therein he utterly destroyed." 10:34-35
32. "Joshua went ... unto Hebron ... and smote it with the edge of the sword ... and all the cities ... and all the souls that were therein; he left none remaining." 10:36-37
33. "Joshua returned ... to Debir ... And he took it ... and all the cities ... and they smote them with the edge of the sword, and utterly destroyed all the souls that were therein; he left none remaining."10:38-39
34. "So Joshua ... left none remaining, but utterly destroyed all that breathed, as the LORD God of Israel commanded." 10:40
35. "All these kings and their land did Joshua take at one time, because the LORD God of Israel fought for Israel." 10:42
36. God delivers the Hazorites into Joshua's hand, and he knows just what to do with them: he smites them all with (you guessed it) the edge of the sword until "there was not any left to breathe." 11:6-17
37. "And the LORD delivered them into the hand of Israel, who smote them ... and they smote them, until they left them none remaining." 11:8
38. "And Joshua did unto them as the LORD bade him: he houghed their horses." 11:9
39. "Joshua ... smote the king thereof with the sword." 11:10
40. "And they smote all the souls that were therein with the edge of the sword, utterly destroying them: there was not any left to breathe." 11:11
41. "And all the cities of those kings, and all the kings of them, did Joshua take, and smote them with the edge of the sword, and he utterly destroyed them, as Moses the servant of the LORD commanded." 11:12
42. "Every man they smote with the edge of the sword, until they had destroyed them, neither left they any to breathe." 11:14
43. "As the LORD commanded Moses his servant, so did Moses command Joshua, and so did Joshua; he left nothing undone of all that the LORD commanded Moses." 11:15
44. "So Joshua took ... all their kings ... and smote them, and slew them." 11:16-17
45. "For it was of the Lord to harden their hearts, that they should come against Israel in battle, that he might destroy them utterly." Notice that God hardens their hearts so that he can have an excuse to kill them. 11:20
46. "Joshua destroyed them utterly with their cities." 11:21
47. Caleb offers to give his daughter to whoever conquers the city of Debir. Caleb's nephew wins the contest and is given his cousin for a prize. 15:16-17
48. "Did not Achan son of Zerah commit a trespass in the accursed thing, and wrath fell on all the congregation of Israel?" To find out see Joshua 7:1-26. 22:20
49. "I plagued Egypt." 24:5
50. God brags about drowning the Egyptians. 24:7
51. "I gave them [the Amorites] into your hand, that ye might possess their land; and I destroyed them from before you." 24:8
52. "I delivered them into your hand." 24:11
53. God sent hornets to fight for the Israelites. 24:12
54. God is jealous and will never forgive you for your sins. "He will turn and do you hurt, and consume you." 24:19-20

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